[Everyone] Final decision on CAU requirements

Sat Feb 27 21:29:15 UTC 2021

Hey Jordan,    So first: I am there to help with any part of this that I can take care of before I leave (in about a week) or that I can handle from afar by phone or smoke signal.    As for my last discussions with Accurate, because there was so much going on about the gate, I only asked Cade to price the extension and gate.  He wanted me to make the measurements and send those to him.  I decided to wait instead until we got the gate issue resolved rather than waste his time going back and forth with me about an estimate.  Turned out to be a good "lazyman" decision under the circumstances.    The estimates for the back fence (for all three vendors) are attached so that you have the other two on hand.   It's sometimes hard to compare estimates since they provide different materials and fence styles in those estimates.  I've always found Sara to be a good resource if I have any questions about this sort of thing.    Regarding the front fence, as you may recall, Accurate gave us three estimates: Option #1 - 12 feet out from the end of the current fence, Option #2 - from the current fence to the garden edge, and Option #3 - from the current fence to the culvert.  12 feet would probably satisfy CAU but it might look a little odd if it stopped there while right up the garden edge would look more "complete."  Also, given that our place was just fine until CAU "reconsidered" last year, CAU may later come back and request that the fence go up to the garden edge (since no outsider is likely to cross over the garden to get to the creek).  So I would suggest Option #2 above.  I think everyone was fine with that and it isn't all that much more costly.  Just my thoughts.        As for the rest, see my notes below in black.MarkIn a message dated 2/27/2021 2:05:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, everyone at chelseaplacedecatur.com writes: 
Hi All, After our discussions and receiving helpful feedback from Mark and the rest of the committee, below are the recommendations.   
   - Go with option #1 off the Accurate estimate for the fence along Drexel, pending confirmation from Mark that he believes that option #1 meets the first requirement from the insurance company. (See notes above)
   - Ask Accurate to also include a railing/fence along the curb line between 406 and 408 at the top of the stairs where there is a drop off, along the associations property line between those two properties (requirement #2)  I believe that CAU only requested a railing at this location, no fencing, however the current fence on the other side of the bridge between my place and Sara's may need shoring up (it wobbles now) before any company can put in a solid railing.  Accurate gave us a quote for this railing and for the railing along the path next to 410.
   - Ask Accurate to also include a fence along the path/stairs next to 410 (requirement #3)  I think that CAU only requested a railing here as well and Accurate provided a quote for this and the railing between 406 and 408.
   - Ask Accurate to update their estimate from June for the fence along to back of the property, asking them to provide a metal option and take into account that they will already be on site installing items 1 through 3.  We should get the update for sure but as for a metal option, I don't know anything about that.  You might want to discuss this with Sara and/or Vincent since they were involved in requesting that estimate.
   - Regarding requirement #4, tell the insurance company that the culvert issue is a very complex one, as it involves the City of Decatur, a full engineering design and the property owner of 410.  As such, we will require significant more time to provide them with further feedback.  This sounds fine.  I think CAU wants to see movement so the railing/fence extension should put them at ease for now.  Note that I think there may be a new owner to 410 who is either living there now or moving in shortly.  
In the interest of time and continuity, we believe it is best to employ Accurate for all the fence/railing work needed. If everyone approves I would like to move on the above recommendations ASAP. I am more than happy to take over communications with Accurate and CAU in place of Mark. Mark- I will contact you separately just so I am clear on exactly where things were left with Accurate. Regarding the estimate for the back fence, this was done before my time. If someone could please provide me with the original estimate that was done back in June, I can speak to Accurate about that as well. Please let me know any questions.  Thanks,Jordan --Jordan Sharon
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On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:32 AM, David Weiner via Everyone <everyone at chelseaplacedecatur.com> wrote:
Jordan, Does the committee have a recommendation to make at this time?  Dave 
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 16:07 Mark Bussey <statute661 at aol.com> wrote:
Dave,

     I am in full agreement with Sara.  It is time for decisions to be made.  My suggestions for the following: 1. The front fence: have Accurate take the current fence down to the garden bed (proposal #2 by Accurate);2. Railings: Sara had three railing companies that she intended to come out and provide estimates.  We should get that list of companies from Sara, have them come out immediately and then choose a company to start the work.  Alternatively, let's just go forward with Accurate on their railing estimate.3. The culvert.  Someone needs to be responsible for getting together ideas and estimates: to date no one has been assigned to/volunteered for this.   Please find someone to take this over.
4. The back fence.  This has been lingering for way too long.  We have had three estimates since last summer to repair/replace the back fence.  One is from Accurate.  It is time to select a company.  If it is Accurate then we can get that fence repaired at the same time and perhaps they will cut us a little better deal for more than one project. All of these projects together may very well require a special assessment.  That cost should be determined as soon as possible, and announced, so that everyone, including the Association, can budget accordingly. Mark  
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